In this interview, therapist and podcaster, Stephanie Winn talks to Helen Joyce about her experiences as a gender-affirming therapist and what brought her around to seeing matters differently. Stephanie explains why she decided to take a stand against gender ideology and medicalization and how she found the courage to share her views publicly. She talks about the people who targeted her and how she defeated them, and what she wants lawmakers around the world to understand about these proposed “conversion therapy bans” (hint: they’re not what they seem.)