Christine Sefein, MA, is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist who specialises in grief and trauma work. She has worked as Clinical Director at a grief support center, Clinical Supervisor at California Lutheran University, and full-time lecturer at Antioch University. She is a member of Critical Therapy Antidote, and cohost of the CTA Podcast. It was a pleasure to interview my cohost, and explore her experiences growing up in an immigrant family, studying psychology, and returning to her college years later to teach in the Clinical Psychology programme. What she found after returning to college was an evironment vastly different from the robust, structured and dignified place she left years earlier. We discuss her experiences and the value of keeping one’s integrity by staying true to time tested values.